Elevating Athletes to Physical & Mental Mastery | Tyler Plantz

Tyler: 0:00

It's physical mastery, it's mental mastery, but it's also a smart understanding of. Knowing a kid, knowing his limits and helping elevate them while also not at the expense of his mental health.

Luke: 0:24

Thanks for listening to the "I Win, the podcast that shares why leaders will benefit by obsessing less on outcomes and more on the journey of changing lives today "I want to welcome on Head Football coach at Providence Catholic High School, Tyler Plantz, who after spending 10 years at University of Notre Dame, As both a player and a coach decided to come home to his alma mater and his very first year led the Celtics all the way to the state championship game. In this episode, we're going to discuss how his championship experiences at both Notre Dame and Providence Catholic High School have prepared him to be a head coach. Why developing men to relationships is so important to 'him and what the Zac Plantz Foundation. And how we all can help. So coach, let's start with your experiences at Notre Dame. Obviously a legendary university. You got to experience it from both the lens of a player and a coach. So what are your takeaways from being in such a prestigious university that has helped you as a head coach today?

Tyler: 1:22

Well, there's a lot of things that you, you're kind of able to learn. So "I was able to see it from really a bunch of different angles. So "I actually walked on, uh, my freshman year, um, and then proceeded to, to earn a scholarship during my time there. So, and then being able to invite, get invited back to coaching, and then being able to see everything from the coaching realm. It's literally like, From each different lens. And then getting into coaching, I actually worked it from a football operations standpoint, from strength conditioning standard, from an offense, defense and special team standpoint. So, with all those different roles, "I was able to really see, uh, Everything inside of a football program, um, really the details of what it takes to be successful. So that was a pretty, pretty awesome, awesome experience for me. Um, specifically, and then it was always a lifelong dream to, to play football at Notre Dame. So "I actually saw it from a, from a fan's perspective for the first 18 years. So, being able to, uh, be around people. obviously it's a legendary school, but beyond that, there's some pretty special people that you're able to, to rub shoulders with and work alongside and learn from, most importantly. so just kind of one, the, the hard working that it takes to be successful is the biggest thing. a lot of those people are really talented. A lot of those people are really smart. but the biggest thing that they've had above anything else is that they, they work hard. Um, and then it being a, a Catholic institution at the core of everything that they do, is that it's bigger than you. So being able to make sure that you weren't lost in like this, this, uh, realm of college football that's obsessed with the, the bottom line. It was. A place that was successful, a place that worked hard, but most importantly kept the first things first in making sure that we had good people, that were able to work as a team. and that's how we really started to see success as the years progressed at Notre Dame.

Luke: 3:09

/And in addition to getting to learn from Brian Kelly, who "I think is one of the best coaches in college football, "I know he's polarizing to some extent, but "I cannot argue with his success that he has had. You've also gotten to learn from one of the best high school coaches, at least in the state of Illinois, and Coach Seffner in over 300 wins, "I believe it was nine state championships. So what did you learn from Coach Seffner in terms of like how to coach people and how to turn boys to men?

Tyler: 3:36

Well, he's been a, an awesome resource for me. So "I actually never played for Coach Seth. So when "I came in was like, really "I might my freshman year, might have even been one of his last years that he wasn't, or that he wasn't here or his first years that he wasn't here. So that was, uh, "I. So as a player, "I never quite was able to experience him as a coach. But coming back into this role, he's been an awesome resource, uh, with a text every week or a call every week. not just talking about the game, but talking about enjoying the experience. Like on Friday nights he used to be like, he told me, you know what, there's gonna be a lot of emotions, a lot of things going on, a lot of things going through your head. So one thing that "I would always do is "I go home and "I cut my. And "I Amm, like, well, that's one way to, to do it for sure. Um, and then just kind of listening to him talking about the traditions of the school, was cool. Like how he talks about, uh, for a long time they didn't even have a helmet on the sticker, just a white helmet because, you know, he rolled in the stadium and people were aware of who we were. Um, and just like little, little cool things like that where it's. And the way he, he was, and also, uh, his passion was coaching the offensive line. So we'd always go back and forth talking about, um, offensive line playing, things like that. So being able to, to talk to a guy too, where he's had a bunch of success, but if you really look at the length of his career, he started the football program here. So it was almost like, He had to figure out a way how to win a game, and then it got to the point where he almost couldn't lose. So it was, uh, really cool to see a guy who just stuck his nose down, worked and, uh, figure out a way to win. So again, being able to have him as a mentor, um, as a and as a resource is, has been invaluable.

Luke: 5:14

/There's the connection. "I already mentioned that you went to the school, you're now. And there's that, emotional connection of why you'd wanna go back to Providence, Catholic and "I, understand all that. But in addition to just your connection to the school, why'd you make the decision to leave? The collegiate coaching ranks to work with high school age athletes?

Tyler: 5:36

/Um, well, the, uh, the original reason "I did it was because my brother passed away in a car accident, two Thanksgivings ago. so when that happened, it was something that was really tough on my family and, um, and me and, um, "I kind of just left picking up the pieces and, and during that first year, "I took a deep look and, and really wanted to see. You realize how fragile life is and you really gotta take a step back and write down what's important and what do you want to get out of this life. And um, for me the most important thing is gonna be obviously supporting people, but my family. So, obviously it's a lifelong dream to play a Notre Dame to coach at Notre Dame. but being able to take a step back. "I wouldn't say step back, but take a different step, into the high school realm to be around my family, to have my, my dad and my brother help out with the offensive wine to have my sister helping us run water. At halftime, my wife's dropping off peanut butter and jellys my mom's involved with our fundraisers with the pastum. So to have this be a a family. Ordeal, um, like a family mission, and to be around them and to see 'em. And for people that have been inside or know under, understand what college football's all about, that's a demanding job from d in season, you're, you're working. Almost seven days. You're working seven days a week then, or 24 hours in the off-season. You're recruiting in summer, you're in spring, you're doing different forms of training. So that's always a massive time commitment. So being able to be here, you have a similar commitment in time, but. The people that are with you along the way and, and during your practices and in your training is your family. So, being able to have that and see that has been a massive, massive reason for the trans transition. And then the other big reason was Providence actually, uh, dedicated our weight room to Zach. Um, so they named it the Zack Plans performance center. So "I actually, you kinda see. Picture, it's actually behind me right now. Um, where they have a picture of him on the wall. They have his high handwriting on the wall. Um, they have a little logo of him on, on each one of the racks. and then, uh, when province decided that they were gonna do that, my family actually just a small chunk of what went into the project, but we dedicated his life insurance check to the room. So it's kind of. The last thing he left behind and us carrying that on. So "I mean. So literally through these guys I'm carrying on my brother Zach. Um, during our time here, he's only about 13, 14 months younger than "I am and he played Will linebacker "I played Mike Linebacker. we actually had a horrible wish to make the joke about how we kept losing state. So it's kind of crazy how it all happened where we lost state "I. Lost state, my senior. and then he ended up passing away on Thanksgiving weekend. Um, we ended up blowing it again this year, but, it's just kind of weird how things work sometimes and they just Dots just kind of connected and for me it just made perfect sense for me to continue to do something "I love in coaching football, and then make my family be an integral part of it was, was really important. well, "I have to tell you, "I always ask the question of why "I really want to understand. The why behind the people that enter our profession. And uh, that was, that was maybe the most powerful why I've ever heard "I "I appreciate you sharing. that's pretty personal stuff that you shared. And I'm sorry to hear about the tragedy that came out from your brother. But, thank you for sharing that. That was definitely really powerful. And "I mean you have such a purpose ahead of you now to impact the kids and to keep on your brother's legacy. And I'm sure your first year in as a head. Just like happens to all of us as head coaches, you realize that maybe you didn't know as much as you thought you knew or you weren't as prepared as you thought that you were going into the job. So now that you're a year in, what have you learned about coaching high school athletes that you're gonna now utilize to make you an even better coach in 2023? /well, the biggest thing is, uh, for me is you never know the answers. "I mean. That's one thing I've learned a long time ago, um, is that you're, you're always learning and you're never there. but the biggest thing for these guys is just. Keeping it, keeping it fun and keeping it engaging. Like that's, that's the most important thing where a lot of, even last year we had a limited number of seniors. but in your mind, initially, it's like coming from college to high school, it's like, all right, there's a process that it takes to win period. Um, as much as you, it's a game as much as it's this, but it's like, if you want to go out there, be really being able to sit down with your team and explain to them, this is what it takes to be successful. Like, you gotta put this amount of hours and this is what the, this is what our practice is gonna look like. This is gonna be the intensity of it. This is the film study we need on side. but now my biggest goal in year two. Now that the standard is set, making sure that everyone, as we get this thing going, understands that this is also fun. Like winning is fun. But this game is fun. Like as fun as it is to play in front of 80,000 in Notre Dame Stadium or some of these guys "I walk out in the N F L. Every single person you ever talk to. It's like the most fun "I ever had playing football was in high school. So making sure that those relationships are developed amongst the team, making sure that the coaches understand what their mission is and what we're trying to accomplish. And then bigger than that is, is making sure these guys look back on their experience from 14 to 18, understanding, all right, "I worked hard in the weight room, and "I got stronger. "I went out of the field. We played hard, but. Weight room wasn't just getting stronger, it was developing habits. Understanding that there's gonna be days where "I don't want to go to work, where it's not a concept of, rights and privileges, its duties and responsibilities. And being able to ingrain that in a team, um, and then a guy. To take on for his rest of his life is critical. And then the process of a week being understanding like you miss a bay or you miss a meeting or you don't pay attention to the film, or you don't wanna see what they do on third down, or you ain't paying attention to how they play their base downs. If you don't take that process from Monday through Friday or Sunday through Friday, it's gonna be hard to win. so just trusting it. And then the biggest thing that, that was kind of our rallying cry this year was belief. Um, so that's something that, was a term that. A lot of people use, but one guy specifically his name was Dan Ratkovich, who teaches, uh, a different style of offensive line than most do. So he teaches knuckles up and he teaches, um, running off the football and a bunch of different, uh, relative to, to some offensive line thinkings. And, the biggest thing he always says is, It might feel a little bit weird, but believe, believe, believe. And uh, there's stories of him just getting in front of rooms and looking at the biggest guy in the room, walking him in. He'd be like, "I, believe in my technique more than you. Let's get in the middle. Let's, let's draw, let's just do a leverage drill right here. And he'll be 85 years old pushing a 24 year old and kick his ass because how much he believed So we took that concept that "I learned from, from him and Coach Hestan and morphed it into a belief in obviously your technique, but beyond that, a belief in your teammates. So like you gotta be able to believe that guy to the left and ready you is gonna get his job done just as effectively as you are. Um, believe in yourself. All right? Believe in the coachings, believe in this process. And if you are the. "I, you believe that you're gonna walk into every single game and that guy to the left and right's gonna fight as hard as he can. And then you're gonna give that same kind of effort. You're gonna have a chance every week. so kind of rallying around that, talking about that. And then again, you talk about this not just from 14 to 18, everything else he wants to go where it's like, all right, "I. Don't care what the odds are. You do the work, you're gonna have a chance, and more likely than not, you're gonna win the thing. So, so that was a huge, huge point of everything that we, we, uh, talked about this year.

Luke: 13:38

/I, love that you said. Fun because many coaches, especially in your sport like football, where it is a, it's a tough sport. Let's just be honest. Like you have to be tough to excel in football. A lot of people, You can't allow fun like fun's gonna suddenly make your players weak and put you at a competitive disadvantage. And "I completely disagree with it. "I, "I tell my coaches all the time, why do you think the kids joined? Because they think it's fun. So if we suck the fun out of the game, what do you think's gonna happen? And "I do think. That the process could be fun. It's all just a matter of mindset and how you approach the process. if you're gonna make it suck as a coach, then they're not gonna enjoy the process and you're not teaching 'em any of those lifelong lessons that you talked about. Um, which involve the daily habits and belief, just such important lifelong skills to instill in our players on the take with them and go be successful husbands and fathers and whatever business endeavors that. Go into, so awesome answer. Thanks for sharing that. And "I wanna continue with some of your philosophy, "I read, and this is a direct quote that you believe to develop men through relationship driven program that is rooted in toughness, accountability, love, attention to detail. And faith. So "I, wanna first, start with the developing relationships. What are some specific strategies that you use to develop relationships, especially coming in "I? Know you're from the community and people know who you are, but you still came in as a first year head coach, right? You have new players in front of you. What are the strategies you used to develop those relationships?

Tyler: 15:11

/Um, the biggest thing was, Just showing that "I had an idea of what "I was trying to do, being around a lot of good coaches and good people, I've been able to learn a lot of things and just implementing it and having the guys starting to see success. So obviously one of the best ways to do that is the weight room. So if you get a guy in there for a month or two and he is, starts to see his body change or he is starting to see the strength numbers grow up, "I think that's one of the the best ways to start to develop trust where there's a tangible progression. Early. So when guys started to see that they kind of were starting to get excited, their weight were going, was going up, they're getting stronger. so "I think number one, developing that relationship is just, uh, having the knowledge for them to be successful. number two was like, no fear of of hard work. So "I mean they were in the building. They saw that "I was here for the most part, where they wanna work out. Like, let's go, let's go train. Hey, you wanna go run on the field? All right, let's get some work in. You wanna work on your past sets? Let's go. You wanna work on your route? Let's go. Like, let's you wanna work on your man coverage? All right, let's do it. So the availability. "I think it was also another piece when it came down to, to training these guys. so "I was like, all right, if you need it, like "I could drop the head, I'm 10 minutes from school, let's go do it. so that "I feel like was kind of the first thing where my goal isn't necessarily to. "I wasn't to be friends with them. "I as a 29, 30 year old was gonna be hard cause you wanted, make sure you're developing it or you're almost closer to them in age than you are their parents. Um, so "I wanted to make sure first, again, I'm here to, I'm here to make you better and I'm here to be a resource for you. then as that started coming, as they started to believe as they started to buy in, then it was a lot easy to, become part more of. it'd be like every day I'd make sure that "I was in the lunchroom. making sure "I was in the hallways. There's an opportunity "I to play basketball. "I at basketball was arresting me. I'm gonna be there. getting to know their families throughout the course of the summer "I think is important. Um, so we'd have different events where, we'd bring in a Joey's food truck and then a family would come through, or the pasta dinners and the moms be involved. and just continuous touches. "I think is the most "I where it's like, you don't want be the guy who, all right, season ends in November. See you in July, I, there needs to be a sweat equity, just like we tell 'em in the labor room. You guys gotta grind together and learn each other and figure out what's on each other's hearts. And it's the same thing with the coaching staff where you've gotta be "I. Don't wanna take away from anyone else's family time, but Relationships established now and trust established now is gonna make sure when it comes, the dog days of August or September, and you need to critique a player or coach him up a player or make sure that he adjusts something or give him a. Like a really hard truth that they don't want to hear. They're not hearing it from some third party guy who's here to win football games. They're hearing it from somebody who was there early in the morning or who was there picking 'em up for school or grabbed them lunch or bought donuts for the boys. And now there's a rapport, there's a, Relationship established. And then beyond that, coming back into high school and really seeing guys every day and being around guys every year a day and not just the football setting, you start to see more of their personalities a little bit than you would and like your small position group and the college level. So one thing that's been blaring is just learning how important the mental health piece is for a lot of these guys too. Where at first the thought was kind of, all right, we need to make sure that we ease off on football. And the other side is there's also, the sport is also an outlet for a lot of kids. Mm-hmm. where it's like when it's football season, it's football season, things are going good and if "I work hard, good things happen. And then sometimes when they transition, they're not playing other sports. It's like the reality of life sets in where football's not always fair, but sometimes life's even less fair. Where it's the kid could be the best kid in the world and does all the right stuff and. Things just don't happen the way that they should. So when they get there and they're kind of stuck in their own thoughts and stuck in their own things, it's always hard. So "I trying to figure out a way to make sure that they're constantly engaged, or at least not necessarily constantly engaged, but "I. The option would be constantly engaged where it's like, all right, I'll be in there in the morning or after school every day. Let's work out if you want to. But also understanding, all right, go reset, go, um, recharge if you need to too. So "I trying to figure out that balance, is something "I obviously don't, "I don't have an answer for, but something I'm trying to figure out to make sure that these kids know and understand that we're not just here to win football games. We're. To be a resource for you to take your head off of whatever's going on or help you advance if your goal is to play at the highest level too.

Luke: 19:59

/The other part of your philosophy "I wanna discuss is the toughness piece and "I, it's a two-part question. One, do you believe toughness can be taught two? If so, how do you teach toughness?

Tyler: 20:11

I think toughness can be taught, um, "I think it's kind of. The philosophy is always like, if they don't bite as a puppy, they're not gonna bite as a dog. but at the same time, like you gotta explain what toughness is too. So like, obviously there's physical toughness, all right? And "I think physical toughness is gonna come a lot from one fearlessness, uh, which you can't always teach. Um, so it'll be a guy's just willingness to be face tough, put his facing on a play, but the other side of physical toughness is gonna be an expertise and understanding, of how to execute a physical play. So for us, like, we'll practice drive, like physical body on body stuff all the time, like the biggest. Concept in my mind where "I think everyone struggles with, especially in like high school and the college ranks, is one, using your hands and two, um, changing levels and accelerating our contact. So you'll see a lot of guys, they hit or they collide with somebody, and the first thing they try to do is they try. Twerking or moving or shut their feet down. So when you talk about physical toughness, like, all right, let's teach you guys how to accelerate on contact. The next piece is gonna be mental toughness. All right? So mental toughness is something that "I believe can definitely be learned. and it's something that's gonna be coached, but a lot of it's gonna come back to holding kids accountable. Um, it's gonna be the discipline piece where. Mental toughness more than anything is just showing up and doing it over and over and over again. Being able to look past the mundane things and go and go and keep going. And "I, think that's like a habit. Like our job as coaches is to help develop habits. Um, so if you can stay on a kid and motivate a kid or make it fun for a kid to develop that habit, "I think the mental toughness piece is there. And then in this day and age too, "I. Think mental age or mental toughness is also the ability to be smart. So if you're really hurt, like communicate that with your coaches if you're mentally fatigued, being able to be smart and communicate that with coaches. So it's either you're not going to the point where. You break or like going to the point where there's never communication. Like use your coach as a resource to be mentally tough and put your pride to the side and say you're wrong, or pride to the side and say, I'm not okay right now coach, because that's if your head's, if your brain, if you are emotions there. Injured. It's the same thing as an acl. It's the same thing as an ankle. Like, come tell me. All right. Bam. All right, let's take some time to shut down. We'll figure out an augmented plan for you for a little bit and then let's get going. So "I think that's the other side of toughness too, is, is the coach's understanding of the extent of it. It's physical mastery, it's mental mastery, but it's also a smart understanding of. Knowing a kid, knowing his limits and helping elevate them while also not at the expense of his mental health.

Luke: 23:09

/Most of us in his profession are very passionate about learning, so "I wanna make the assumption that you are as well. So with that said, what are the areas that you are studying and really diving deep into this off season that you want to improve and grow on as a head?

Tyler: 23:24

/um, this off season? Well, right now it's really massive emphasis on strength conditioning. So, um, I'll always try getting on the phone with somebody or meeting with somebody. Um, "I talk about different strength conditioning methods that they use. so right now, like all recruits and John Quinn are putting together this awesome thing called Lineman's Special Strength, um, and a lot of stuff that they're implementing in there. we're trying to implement in our program to some capacity. Um, got phone with Jake Flint, who's the head guy at LSU yesterday. Um, just talking about different things that they do to train agility. And then the biggest point was not necessarily, okay, how do we compile all of these sciences or techniques? And those are obviously pieces of it, like the sports science part is, is stuff that's important, but for, for us and for teaching and for sports in general. We spent almost 25 minutes talking about how you create an agility thing, "I agility movement or contact prep thing that's. fun. Like it's minimal coaching. It allows the guys just to go out there, compete and really just challenge each other. Like they "I. They had a thing where they did last week where they put flags on guys, put flags on their hips, and they're like, all right, capture the flag. Put 'em around a, literally a trash can. All right, go get the donut. Go get the guys flag. So they're sprinted after each other, hand fighting, changing levels, grabbing it all right? And they tally who won and who. Um, or just different skills where it's all right, we're teaching the agility stuff, but we're not setting up cones or we're not strict about, ladders. Like we're really allowing these guys to adjust and react and move and compete. But like we mentioned earlier, have fun while also improving their conditioning and, and athletic.

Luke: 25:09

/You mentioned this earlier and "I wanna go back to it cause "I think it's a really important point and that is the long-term positive impact the weight room can have on kids and "I. Think, "I have always argued that the weight room is probably the most underutilized classroom in any high school. And just many people and many coaches just don't understand the value of it. And there's this, misnomer that football coaches are trying to bolt kids up and "I think because of that fault. Perception that a lot of other kids miss out on an opportunity to really improve their overall health and fitness, but also like their mental health and fitness. I'm a big believer in that. So can you just, again, go back and speak briefly to, your understanding of how a healthy body makes a healthy mind.

Tyler: 25:58

Yeah, no "I. Think that's, uh, a really good point. "I mean "I. "I. Sit down with my president of our school all, all the time and explain to him like you should. As important it is to know math, science, and everything else, it's a person should be able to program their own workout by the time they leave here. They should understand a push and a pull. Um, they should understand how to hip hinge. They should understand how to press, they should understand how to squat. All these things are. Basic body movements where you leave here with a skillset that, you can apply literally for the rest of your life. Like, there's no, like, okay, when am "I gonna use calculus again? Well, you are gonna have to train your body or at least understand how to, how to eat. Um, you're gonna have to underst. how to recover. You're gonna have to understand how your body grows or how your body loses weight. Um, "I think those little things are huge. and then also just like "I. Becoming aware of yourself. "I think people are spent, absorbed in, I, don't know like the outcomes of things, but like here, there's a process, there's a continuous process of, of training where okay, "I want "I this goal for myself. So setting a goal and seeing it go through, but then also being cognizant of like, okay, well if "I don't go to sleep right now, my body's not gonna recover for the way that "I. Form the next day. So "I think it's just a, you create like a self-awareness, that's important in the weight room. And then beyond that, like there's nothing better than going on that going like, I'm having a tough day. Or like, somebody said something sideways or like, I'm ready to like "I. Like, all right, let's throw hands right now. Well, if "I can go into the weight room. All right. Throw some light on. Go hit a max, pull up or go get an hour workout in and get a good pump. Like my mindset and mood completely shifts. Um, so "I think the value in just going and attacking a workout too is, is an outlet and a resource for, for people too, or in my, it's like the best therapy in the world is really a. Sweat. So, um, "I think this is something that needs to be really worked into everyone's curriculum. Where as much as you need Batman and basketball and pickleball, being able to leave high school after four years, making that a prerequisite of "I need to at least understand. How my body works and how "I can train myself for the rest of my life. "I think is an invaluable skill that every teacher has.

Luke: 28:22

/Love it. Awesome answer. Completely agree with you, and, and, and that's a great perspective, like be able to leave high school and understand, as you said, programming of what's best for you in your. Hopefully forever. Long-term journey of health and fitness. And to wrap things up, "I, wanna bring this all full circle and end with the Zach Plants Foundation. Now that "I understand your why of coaching and how passionate you are about that, can you please explain what the foundation is and how our listeners can help if they are interested?

Tyler: 28:56

/Yeah, absolutely. So the, the Zack Plans Foundation is a, uh, a foundation that we began for my brother, um, when he passed. Um, for us it was, it was, uh, an opportunity to carry him on. Um, so obviously "I get to do this specifically through football. but for us, he was a guy who, When you sit down with anyone who was just a hot or who talks about zag, the one word that constantly kept coming on is that he was a shepherd, um, a shepherd. Whereas, uh, whether you were the oldest person in the room or the youngest person in the room, he understood how to talk to you and he understood how to make you feel welcome. Or if you're the guy that was standing by yourself, he was the guy who would walk over and make sure that you came in and you were able to be part of the group and he created some form of common ground for you. And for him, he was a, like an it, consultant coming outta school and saw a need to be involved in the community. So he started to transition more into politics so that he can create true policy changes to help the city, to help the state. And that's where he saw his life going. So through his passions of just really helping people and giving opportunities to people, that's where the Zac Plantz Foundation started. and then, One of his last things that he was doing was the November initiative where, you grow a mustache throughout the course of, of November. you raise money and then all the money goes towards, mental health and men's mental health, um, specifically. So that is one of the areas that we've kind of focused on is mental health. Um, so we've actually partnered with the US Center for Mental Health and Sport. to create a program for both players and coaches, um, and parents to just understand more about mental health, not necessarily, like sports performance, but understanding the athlete. Identifying when there's a crisis, when it doesn't seem like it. And it's a really two hour program that we're gonna introduce, the day before Zach's birthday in March that we're gonna have at Providence. So, we're specifically gonna have it to the Providence community, but anybody else would be willing to come and, and learn more. It's gonna be in our gym and it'll be a two hour, thing that'll really kind of detail what it takes to be a training program, details what it takes to, as a coach and as a parent and as a player to understand. and ID things in teammates or in yourself or how to. which "I think will be an awesome thing. And then actually the 18th of March, we're gonna have a, uh, a dinner in Chicago, where Chase Claypool will actually be a, our, um, keynote speaker. chase is a guy who "I helped coach at Notre Dame. And actually went through, kind of a similar story as, as us, where he lost his sister when he was in high school. so mental health is a thing that he's been very outspoken about throughout his career, and something that he's willing to, that he wants to give back to and help create more of a platform for. so within the foundation, like to kind of sum it all up, it's our opportunity to carry on Zach, who was a shepherd. and caring for people and giving his time to people and improving the lives of everyone he could. with a special focus right now on, on mental health and the current crisis that our country's going through.

Luke: 32:06

/Well, thank you for sharing that and for all of our listeners, "I will link the website to Zach's Foundation so you could learn more and think about getting involved that that is something that of interest of you. It sounds like an an awesome cause, and I'm glad that "I got to learn more about it. "I really appreciate the time of sitting down and talking with you and learning about your thoughts and your journey as a coach, as "I said. The only skin in the game "I have with this podcast is to hopefully move the needle for a coach somewhere that he could take something away and say, Hey, I'm making a difference. "I do matter, and the impact I'm having on people is gonna have a long-term impact on the world. So thanks for sharing your thoughts, Dan, the "I and Win. And to all of our listeners, "I will link, coach Plants' contact info, as well as "I mentioned the foundation too. So coach with that, have a great rest of your weekend and we will talk to you.

Tyler: 32:56

awesome. Thanks. Hope for your time, coach